Lost Prison Interview with Hermann Goring: The Reichsmarschall‘s Revelations

8/28/2006 • Interviews, World War II

His impressive girth, bombast and outlandish costumes made Reichsmarschall Hermann Goring the darling of Allied satirists. As their cities were pummeled to rubble during the war, even the Germans took to contemptuously referring to the head of the Luftwaffe as Der Dicke (the fat one). More than 60 years on, that perception of the Reichsmarschall persists; but it is only half the story.

His comical words, actions and unique fashion sense aside, it should be remembered that Göring was a bona fide war hero who received the coveted Orden Pour le Merite during World War I and was a figure of high importance in the Nazi hierarchy. His place at the center of great events makes Göring worthy of careful study and close scrutiny even today.

On May 8, 1945, Göring surrendered to the Americans in full military regalia. Expecting to be treated as the emissary of a defeated people, the Reichsmarschall was shocked when his medals and marshal’s baton were taken away and he was confined in Prisoner of War Camp No. 32, known to its inmates as the ‘Ashcan.

It was from his cell in the Ashcan that on July 25, 1945, Adolf Hitler’s former heir was interviewed by Major Kenneth W. Hechler of the U.S. Army Europe’s Historical Division, with Captain Herbert R. Sensenig serving as translator. The interview—overlooked for more than 60 years—provides insight on some of the strategic options considered by the Nazi leadership early in the war, their views of the threat posed by the United States and the Soviet Union, and how those attitudes influenced the actual strategy implemented.

Hechler: What was the German estimate of American war potential? Did Germany hope to complete its European campaigns before the United States would be strong enough to intervene?

Göring: As a break neared and it seemed that the matter had to be decided by war, I told Hitler, I consider it a duty to prevent America going to war with us. I believed the economic and technical potential of the United States to be unusually great, particularly the air force. Although at the time not too many new inventions had been developed to the extent we might have anticipated, and airplane production was significant but not outstandingly large. I always answered Hitler that it would be comparatively easy to convert factories to war production. In particular, the mighty automobile industry could be resorted to. Hitler was of the opinion that America would not intervene because of its unpleasant experiences in World War I.

Hechler: What unpleasant experiences? Loss of life?

Göring: The United States helped everybody and got nothing for it the last time, Hitler felt. Things had not been carried out the way the United States had planned. [President Woodrow] Wilson’s 14 Points had not been observed. Hitler was also thinking of the difficulties of shipping an army to Europe and keeping it supplied.

Hechler: What did you feel personally about our war potential?

Göring: While I, personally, was of the opinion that the United States could build an air force quicker than an army, I constantly warned of the possibilities of the U.S. with its great technical advances and economic resources.

Hechler: If you thought the United States would become so powerful, how did this relate to your own plans for waging war?

Göring: The decisive factor in 1938 was the consideration that it would take the United States several years to prepare. Its shipping tonnage at the time was not too large. I wanted Hitler to conclude the war in Europe as rapidly as possible and not get involved in Russia. Yet, on the question of whether America could build up an army on a big scale, opinions were divided.

Hechler: What were the divided opinions? What did other people think?

National Archives

Stripped of the symbols of his achievement and stature within the Nazi state, a reflective Reichsmarschall Hermann Göring sits in a concrete cell in the Ashcan and composes notes for his defense at the Nuremberg war crimes trials. Adolf Hitler’s former number two used his considerable charm at Nuremberg in an effort to save himself and divest the German people of their own complicity in their government’s crimes. Göring used similar tactics during an interview with two U.S. Army historians, conducted shortly after his surrender.

Göring: I don’t know the views of other influential people. I cannot say that other people had given different advice.

Hechler: What opinion was held by OKW [Oberkommando der Wehrmacht, or German Armed Forces High Command] and OKH [Oberkommando des Heeres, or German Army High Command]?

Göring: I don’t know the opinion of OKW or OKH. I used to tell Hitler that everything depended on our not bringing the U.S. over to Europe again. I said during the Polish campaign that we must not let the United States get involved. In 1941 the issue became real, and the general opinion was that it was better to bear unpleasant incidents with the U.S. and strive to keep it out of the struggle than allow a deterioration of relations between the United States and Germany. This was our unrelenting effort.

Hechler: What specifically indicated to you that [President Franklin D.] Roosevelt was preparing for war?

Göring: A mass of details. It was all published in a White Book [intelligence assessment]. I don’t know if the entire text was published or only extracts. It made a deep impression.

Hechler: Did Germany expect to bring its campaign in Europe to a successful conclusion before we could build up our war potential sufficiently to intervene there?

Göring: Hitler believed that he could bring matters to such a point that it would be very difficult for you to invade or intervene.

Hechler: In December 1941, what was Germany’s estimate of our shipbuilding capability, which could influence the European campaign?

Göring: It was our opinion that it was on a very large scale. Roosevelt spoke of bridges of ships across the Atlantic and a constant stream of planes. We fully believed him and were convinced that it was true. We also had this opinion from reports by observers in the United States. We understood your potential. On the other hand, the tempo of your shipbuilding, for example, Henry Kaiser’s program, surprised and upset us. We had rather minimized the apparently exaggerated claims in this field. One spoke of these floating coffins, Kaisersärge, that would be finished by a single torpedo. We believed most of your published production figures, but not all of them, as some seem inflated. However, since the United States had all the necessary raw materials except rubber, and many technical experts, our engineers could estimate United States production quite accurately.

At first, however, we could not believe the speed with which your Merchant Marine was growing. Claims of eight to 10 days to launch a ship seemed fantastic. Even when we realized it referred to the assembly of prefabricated parts, a mere 10 days to put it together was still unthinkable. Our shipbuilding industry was very thorough and painstaking, but very slow, disturbingly slow, in comparison. It took nine months to build a Danube vessel.

Hechler: Why did Germany declare war on the United States?

Göring: I was astonished when Germany declared war on the United States. We should rather have accepted a certain amount of unpleasant incidents. It was clear to us that if Roosevelt were reelected, the U.S. would inevitably make war against us. This conviction was strongly held, especially with Hitler. After Pearl Harbor, although we were not bound under our treaty with Japan to come to its aid since Japan had been the aggressor, Hitler said we were in effect at war already, with ships having been sunk or fired upon, and must soothe the Japanese. For this reason, a step was taken which we always regretted. It was unnecessary for us to accept responsibility for striking the first blow. For the same reason, we had been the butt of propaganda in 1914, when we started to fight, although we knew that within 48 hours Russia would have attacked us. I believe Hitler was convinced that as a result of the Japanese attack, the main brunt of the United States force would be brought to bear on the Far East and would not constitute such a danger for Germany. Although he never expressed it in words, it was perhaps inexpressibly bitter to him that the main force of the United States was in fact turned against Europe.

Hechler: What comments were made by Hitler during 1939-41 on the strength of the antiwar campaign in the U.S.?

Göring: Hitler spoke a great deal on the subject. These people [isolationists], he thought, had great influence, but he got this [impression] from the U.S. press and some observers in the U.S., for example, labeling Roosevelt a warmonger. After the election of 1940, we realized that these isolationist forces were inadequate to hinder the United States’ entry into the war.

Hechler: But [Wendell] Willkie was not an isolationist!

Göring: When we read Willkie’s speeches just before the election, it was also clear that even had Willkie been elected the course of events would have been the same. After the election, we attributed little importance to the isolationists in the United States. Hitler said that they were not strong enough. Roosevelt declared before the election that U.S. troops would not leave the country and were only to be used to repel a possible invasion. We realized that this was a sop to antiwar sentiment rather than any decisive change of attitude. When Sumner Welles visited Europe in 1940, we believed the United States still wanted to stay out of the war, and that on Welles’ return there might be an attempt to preserve peace. We had previously found in Poland the diary of Count Potofsky, which indicated that Roosevelt was preparing for war. Welles’ visit might have been, we thought, a possible sign that the U.S. was inclined to try to settle matters peaceably.

Editor’s note: American industrialist Wendell Willkie was an influential figure in American politics during the war. He ran for president in 1940, opposing Roosevelt’s New Deal but supporting his foreign policy, and won 22 million popular votes to Roosevelt’s 27 million.

Sumner Welles was an American diplomat. In the spring of 1940, during the Phony War period prior to Germany’s invasion of France, Roosevelt sent him to visit European leaders about preserving the peace. Jacob Potofsky was the Polish ambassador to the United States and had a number of interviews with Roosevelt, Cordell Hull and other senior American statesmen. He apparently knew of Roosevelt’s letters to Winston Churchill before the latter became prime minister.

Hechler: Despite correct estimates of our potential, what made you think that you could emerge victorious in a war against us?

Göring: We had assessed the capacity of your air force especially well. The best engines were produced in the United States. We used to work on your engines and bought up every kind we could. Since the end of the last war, Germany had fallen behind in the air, while U.S. commercial aviation was far ahead of us. But in the beginning, we had not fully assessed the possibility of daylight bombers. Our fighters could not cope with them. When we were able to do so, there was a pause and then you sent them out with fighter escort. The Flying Fortress, for example, had more than we had anticipated. Our estimate was incorrect.

Hechler: That being so, I still don’t understand why you wanted war with us.

Göring: The war was, in fact, already going on. It was only a question of form. Our declaration of war was made solely from the propaganda point of view. We would have been willing to make the most far-reaching concessions to avoid war with the United States, as such a conflict would and did prove the heaviest imaginable burden for us. But we were convinced that there was no chance to avoid war. Even if you had transported mountains of material to England, we should not have declared war, since England alone could not have carried out an invasion of Europe without your active participation.

Hechler: With regard to our propaganda about a second front in 1943, did the German high command really expect that we would invade Europe in 1942-43?

Göring: In general, no one believed it. On the contrary, we hoped that the Russians would become disgusted with you first and come to a compromise peace with us. The Russians had complained bitterly that no second front had been opened. We knew precisely what forces were in England. We knew of every American unit in England and could estimate exactly what you had there and that it was insufficient for an invasion.

Hechler: What was your appraisal of the significance of [the August 1942 British landing at] Dieppe?

Göring: We never found out if Dieppe was just a test landing, an attempt to secure a beachhead by surprise or a gesture to the Russians that something, at least, was being done.

Hechler: Were there any changes in the defense ordered by you or anyone else as a result of Dieppe?

Göring: Only minor changes. We did order that the MLR [main line of resistance] should be right along the water. This was learned from the experience of Dieppe.

Hechler: Were you informed by any information or intelligence of our impending invasion of North Africa in November 1942?

Göring: No. We had discussed the possibility of your attacking the west coast of Africa, but we did not think you would enter the Mediterranean. When the big convoy was reported near Gibraltar, we knew some operation was imminent, but the objective might have been any part of Africa, Sicily, Sardinia, Corsica or Malta.

Hechler: Why were so few planes used against us in North Africa?

Göring: We did send a couple of squadrons as reinforcements in November 1942 and bombed successfully, near the Tunis side—for example, Bône and Algiers—and we bombed and sank ships at sea. The planes were based in Italy and had insufficient range to strike at landings around Oran, for instance. We did not have too many long-range bombers. As your forces moved east, they came within range. The Heinkel 177 had more than enough range and was supposed to be ready in 1941, but it took too long to perfect and was not ready until early in 1944. It seemed terrible to me that there was such a delay, since such models became obsolete so quickly.

Hechler: Why did you not first seize Dakar?

Göring: In 1940 we had a plan to seize all North Africa from Dakar to Alexandria, and with it the Atlantic islands for U-boat bases. This would have cut off many of Britain’s shipping lanes. At the same time, any resistance movement in North Africa could be crushed. Then, taking Gibraltar and Suez would merely be a question of time, and nobody could have interfered in the Mediterranean. But Hitler would not make concessions to Spain in Morocco, on account of France. Spain had no objections to the campaign; in fact, the Spaniards were ready for it.

Hechler: Who made this plan? Where and when was the conference on it?

Göring: Hitler and [Joachim von] Ribbentrop met [Francisco] Franco and [Ramón Serrano] Suñer [Franco’s chief negotiator] at Hendaye [France] in September or October 1940. Unfortunately, I was not along. [Benito] Mussolini was jealous and feared having the Germans in the Mediterranean. By that time, it was 1941 and the Russian danger in Hitler’s mind excluded all other considerations. Lack of shipping had prevented us from invading England, but, before the difficulties with Russia, we could have carried out the Gibraltar Plan, with 20 divisions in West Africa, 10 in North Africa and 20 against the Suez Canal, still leaving 100 divisions in France. The entire Italian army, which was unfit for a major war, could have been used for occupation forces. The loss of Gibraltar might have induced England to sue for peace. Failure to carry out the plan was one of the major mistakes of the war.

The plan was originally mine. Hitler had similar ideas and everyone was enthusiastic about it. The navy was in favor of the plans, as it would have given the navy better bases. Instead of being cooped up in Biscay and Bordeaux, it could have had U-boat bases much farther out in Spain and the Atlantic islands. If the campaign succeeded, I personally wanted to attack the Azores to secure U-boat bases there, which would have crippled British sea lanes. The main task in taking Gibraltar would have fallen to the Luftwaffe. Paratroopers would have had to be dropped. So I was chiefly concerned, and I would have very eagerly carried out the operation. The Luftwaffe had many officers who had participated in the war in Spain a year and a half before and knew the people and the country.

Even if Gibraltar had not been taken, we could have Algeciras [as a base of operations], and with 800mm siege mortars could have smashed the soft stone of Gibraltar and taken the base. There was only one unprotected airfield on the Rock. In 24 hours the Royal Air Force would have been forced off the Rock, and we could have battered it to pieces. This was a real task and we were eager to accomplish it. Ships would have been sunk by mines and no mine sweepers could have operated.

Hechler: Can you trace the defeat of the Gibraltar plan directly to Hitler’s fear and distrust of Russia?

Göring: By the beginning of 1941, the Russian threat had begun to loom as a very real danger. Russia was bringing up large forces and making preparations on the frontier. If an agreement had been reached with [Commissar of Foreign Affairs Vyacheslav] Molotov in February 1941, and the Russian danger had not been so real, we should certainly have carried out my plan in the spring of 1941.

Editor’s note: It is clear from Hitler’s first book, Mein Kampf (My Struggle), that as early as the 1930s the leader of the Third Reich sought to invade Russia in order to give Germany access to its living space, oil and other natural resources, grain and population. Göring was catering to his American interrogators and the United States at a point in time when U.S.–Soviet tensions were growing and Stalin and the Red Army posed the greatest ideological and military threat to Europe since the rise of Hitler’s Third Reich.

Hechler: Was the seizure of Dakar definitely part of your plan?

Göring: Yes. The plan called for securing all of North Africa, so that there would be no possible chance of any enemy penetrating to the Mediterranean. Such a possibility had to be excluded under all circumstances. Dakar was about the southwestern extremity. We would not have gone as far south as Freetown, for example. It would have taken much too long for anyone to attack across the desert with neither roads nor water supply adequate for the purpose. There was, therefore, no real danger to the Mediterranean from that far south. We would have taken Cyprus, too. I would have taken it right after we took Crete. We could also have taken Malta easily. Then the Atlantic islands would have been further protection for the coast of Africa. But fear of Russia stopped us. We had only eight divisions on the whole Russian frontier at the time.

Editor’s note: It is unlikely that the Germans could have taken Malta or Cyprus after their airborne invasion of Crete, although they had plans to invade Malta. The Wehrmacht suffered more than 6,000 casualties taking Crete, the vast bulk of them paratroopers, and the operation left both the Luftwaffe’s Fallschirmjäger and its transport arm—which lost more than 300 Junkers Ju-52 transports heavily damaged or destroyed—debilitated and unable to execute any large-scale airborne operations for some time to come. Nor could the Luftwaffe support the Russian campaign after Crete to the extent that Hitler had anticipated. Indeed, after the debacle at Crete, Hitler turned his back on large-scale airborne operations forever.

Hechler: Were Hitler’s fears of Russia military or ideological? Did he fear communism’s spread or Russia’s military might?

Göring: Hitler feared a military attack. Molotov made the following demands in February 1941: a second war on Finland, to result in Russian occupation of the entire country; invasion of Romania and occupation of part of the country; strengthened Russian position in Bulgaria; solution of the Dardanelles question (none of us wished to see Russia there); and the question of the Skagerrak and the Kattegat. This made us fall out of our chairs, it was so incredible. This was the last straw; Molotov was not to be heard any further. Germany would not even discuss it.

We would have no objections to Russia having a sphere of influence in Finland, but Hitler felt that if Russia occupied the whole of Finland, she would reach out to Swedish iron ore mines and the port of Narvik, and we did not want the Russians as our northern neighbors, with troops in Scandinavia. The German people were also very sympathetic toward the valiant Finns. The Russian move northwest would have tended to outflank Germany. Similarly, the Russians in Romania might not necessarily go south, but might move westward to encircle Germany on that side. By denying us the nickel of Finland and the grain and oil of Romania, Russia could have exerted economic pressure against us, and in 1942 or so proceeded to direct military action. These were the main reasons that kept us from arriving at any agreement.

In November 1940, when the first alarming reports came from the east, Hitler gave his first orders to OKW regarding the steps which would have to be taken if the situation with Russia became dangerous. Provision had to be made for the eventuality of a Russian attack. In March 1941, Hitler made up his mind to launch a preventive attack on Russia as a practical matter. I had favored making more concessions to Molotov, since I believed that if Russia invaded Finland and Romania, the differences between her and Britain and the United States would have become insuperable. Hitler, however, was personally distrustful of Russia all the time and saw in her, with the mighty armaments she had been piling up for 10 years, the great future enemy of Germany. Hitler’s inward mistrust remained deep even though not expressed. He wanted to reject all of Molotov’s demands in February 1941, whereas those of my opinion felt that a second Finnish war and a Russian drive on the Dardanelles would rupture the already tense relations between Russia and the Anglo-Saxon powers. In the long run, Russia might then fight England and not against us.

What Stalin’s real intentions were, I don’t know—whether he wanted to move toward the Dardanelles, or to attack Germany. If we had granted Russia’s demands, we might have had her join with us in a four-power pact, replacing the Three-Power Pact. I did not want to attack Russia. I wanted to carry out the Gibraltar plan, and I also did not want to see my Luftwaffe split between the Eastern and Western fronts. Russia was developing a position completely and finally contradictory to the interests of the British.

On August 12, 1945, Göring arrived, with other accused Nazi leaders, in the shattered ruins of Nuremberg, where they were detained next to the Palace of Justice. Slimmed down and weaned off his dependence on painkillers by the beginning of the Nuremberg trials on November 20, he was charged with crimes under four general headings: the common plan or conspiracy (to initiate the war), crimes against peace, war crimes and crimes against humanity. The prisoner psychiatrist at Nuremberg found Göring to be a brilliant, brave, ruthless, grasping and shrewd executive. At the same time, he was charming, persuasive, intelligent and imaginative. But his urbane personality was also characterized by a complete lack of moral discrimination and an absence of any sense of the value of human life.

Göring defended himself, Hitler and the Third Reich energetically and at times even brilliantly. However, his voluntary admissions and frank avowals were hardly the basis for a sound defense. He cut an impressive figure in the witness box and his booming voice and defiant testimony, broadcast throughout occupied Germany by the Allies, lifted spirits in many parts of Germany as the people heard their Hermann fighting back.

The first screening in court of the graphic concentration camp films and testimony from senior commanders of the SS, however, undermined Göring’s defense, taking the wind out of his sails and leaving him bitterly depressed. On August 31, 1946, after 216 court days, the accused were called upon to make their final addresses. The German people trusted their Fürher, remarked Göring. Ignorant of crimes of which we know today, the people fought with loyalty, self-sacrifice and courage, and they have suffered, too, in this life-and-death struggle into which they were arbitrarily thrust. The German people are free from blame. His address failed to save him, although it did reinforce a growing myth among the German people that stressed their victimization during the war rather than their complicity in the crimes of the Third Reich.

On Tuesday, October 1, 1946, Hermann Göring was pronounced guilty on all four charges and sentenced to death by hanging. Hitler’s former Reichsmarschall cheated the hangman’s noose when he swallowed potassium cyanide, which may have been provided by one of his American guards, on October 15, only hours before his scheduled execution. He was cremated at Dachau and his ashes were dumped in a trash can.

This article was written by Gilberto Villahermosa and originally appeared in the September 2006 issue of World War II magazine.

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69 Responses to Lost Prison Interview with Hermann Goring: The Reichsmarschall‘s Revelations

  1. D.M. Benjamin says:

    A most interesting interview indeed. Perhaps, of all interviews, this one proves conclusively that “genuis is akin to madness”. We must, I feel, never forget this defendant’s accomplishments in the first World War.

  2. Naomi Stewart says:

    Goring was HOT! I would so do it with him.

  3. pat mckinney says:

    He should have had his teeth pulled out one by one with pliers without any anstesia then they should have blinded him then boiled him in oil

    • Darl A. Gayton says:

      Pat. you would lower yourself to the level of these vermin? It was done as humanely and quickly as possible at that time. Remember, we are supposed to be the good guys.

  4. Hugues de Payens says:

    he wasnt a warmonger like others,he wanted to enjoy the riches he had and titles of all sort. he didnt want war with Britain,Russia and US…he wasnt the biggest antisemite…he was cool

  5. LM says:

    Goering helped facilitate the murder of 11 million people. Not casualities of war. Genocide — mass murder. Literally transporting men, women and children to gas chambers, gassing them and burning their bodies.

  6. LM says:

    Slave labour, medical experimentation and starvation were also used to murder people, particularly the Jews, gypsies, and Russian POWs–or anyone who stepped out of line. Goering was a leader in a police state, who cares what he did in WWI–he is a disgrace to soldiers everywhere. The ridiculous military decisions made by the leaders of the Third Reich cost the lives of so many soldiers–Allied, Russian and German.

  7. UN says:

    Goering was cool.

  8. Acererak says:

    Goering had the foresight to realize Hitler’s plans for war would end disastrously. However, once the shots started ringing out his wisdom in that regard went out the window. In that he was similar to Galeazzo Ciano, Mussolini’s son-in-law and Foreign Minister.

    If Goering truly realized Hitler’s dream was Germany’s nightmare he had a moral obligation to kill the man. He didn’t. Apparently enriching himself at the expense of others was more important.

    In the final analysis, Hermann Goering was a fat, murderous slob.

  9. darkantwan says:

    I think anyone who says they’d ‘do it with him’ or that Goering is in anyway ‘cool’, should be ashamed. I was once told ‘learn your history or be made to relive it’. I think history is vastly important, and anyone who can bring themselves to show any form of support for his sort of people, should be made to endure what he put people through. These people are a disgrace to humanity, in my opinion on a par as the people who they are praising.

  10. Donna says:

    “He was charged with crimes under four general headings: the common plan or conspiracy (to initiate the war), crimes against peace, war crimes and crimes against humanity.” Aren’t these the same crimes that could be laid at the doorstep of George Bush, Tony Blair and the Messiah Obama? Interesting how history is written by the victors. Personally, I think the Allies were and are the biggest war criminals in history. And, they made the world safe for Communism and Zionism. Two repugnant ideologies that have claimed far more victims than the alleged six million or is it four million or two? The number on the plaque keeps changing.

    • Clarence says:

      Donna, I agree with you. The US has and still is an agressive world power that doesn’t practice what it preaches. Look at this big gun debacle now. Obamarama’s kids have armed guards, but we are not allowed to. Also, with this new gun control philosophy, this is a good way in which the government can disarm us and then when they get out of control we can’t fight back.

  11. NBF says:

    Hitler & Goring didn’t want war with the U.S.; the war criminal Roosevelt wanted that. Tragically, Hitler made the vast mistake of playing into his hands by officially declaring a war that FDR had already started unofficially.

    As for Nuremberg, it was nothing more than a Soviet-style show trial: German “war criminals” had their “confessions” tortured out of them; Commandant of Auschwitz Rudolf Hoess had his testicles crushed. If someone did that to me, I’d confess to every crime in history, including kidnapping the Lindbergh baby.

    As for those infamous films of the “death camps” that have been thrust into our faces virtually every damn day for the last 65 years, footage of piles of emaciated corpses do not prove that those inmates were murdered in gas chambers. Take a look at the old photos of American Civil War POWs: they look just like the Auschwitz prisoners – but they were victims of typhus, dysentery and malnutrition caused by a lack of food due to wartime destruction of infrastructure – just like those in German camps were.

  12. Doug says:

    Jews were responsible for killing tens of millions in Russia as the overwhelming majority of the NKVD and operators of the gulags. Read up on the Holodomor, where jews killed up to 10 million Ukrainians. We have holocaust movies coming out every few months, despite it being a tiny portion of the number of gentiles killed by jews.

    • Bob Trent says:

      Khrushchev commented that by the appearance of government offices you’d think that Jews were a majority of people in the Soviet Union.
      A minority of Jews has contributed to massive misery for many other Jews. No wonder so many cross the line, change their names and try to disconnect with Jewry, with varying degrees of success.

  13. Paul F says:

    The two greatest mass murderers in history,Stalin and Mau, both fought on the side of the Allies in WWII.

    • A.N. says:

      Well, the biggest slaughter in history was the slaughter of native indians in America, so..you are totally wrong. About 100 million native indians died..and afterwards the immigrants stole their land…so, in fact all the countries in America are illegal

  14. NBF says:

    You said it beautifully, Doug. If the jewwws didn’t control Hollywitz, it would’ve been a mere historical footnote long ago.

  15. JMM says:

    Alas, the spirit of the Hermann Gorings of this world lives on in these pages.

    • Clarence says:

      JMM, Goering’s words were prophetic in 1946, in 50 years time people would remember him. Well, its 67 years later and were saying to ourselves, yeah this stuff is still going on, except the media white washes it (i.e. Sandy Hook)

  16. michael broda says:

    i have read several books on the third reich and found them to be extremely enlightening but this computer printout sums it up even better than the books did. Hermann g quite a colorful character………….

  17. Charles Kimball says:

    All you Nazi liars and kooks who admire such demonic punks are no better than the excrement that they shat.

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  19. Bob Trent says:

    Oh, who cares? All this junk happened over 65 years ago and mankind hasn’t learned anything about getting along with one another.

  20. robert aznal says:

    “an absence of any sense of the value of human life” – this is how Goering was described by psychiatrists. This does not exclude the fact that he was charming, brilliant and very likable. I am totally fascinated by him and wish he could have been spared the death penalty and be given life in prison so we could have possibly seen a transformation of character. Who knows, anything is possible. The hardest thing for me to understand ultimately is the total lack of humanity in regards to the Jews, gypsies and others comes in. How can anyone in their right mind torture and cause so much pain, emotional and other, to children, women and men just for being different than them. Can it be that to go against the Nazi’s meant a death sentence in Germany? Or that because of all the wealth the Aryan stole from the Jew made them mad with greed? I just don’t understand.

    • Henry says:

      Nuremberg was a political show trial. I share your fascination with Herr Goering but it is very well documented that he knew at some point Hitler was overtaken by megalomania — no, the Fuhrer wasn’t always a total insane case like they tell you today — and he was moving his plans along at an unsustainable pace.

      Goering was among the most pragmatic, the least anti-semitic, and certainly the highest ranking Nazi to unequivocally oppose Operation Barbarossa (full-scale invasion of Russia). He wanted peace with Britain, the US, and as for the French… their occupation was quite a reasonable one. Even Hitler let the vanquished French continue to rule 2/5’s of their country.

      History is written by the victors. Just look at what the NATO “good guys” are doing all over the Middle East/Central Asia. They install whatever regime that will do their bidding, they rob nations of their natural resources, and they occupy sovereign nations that never attacked them.

      The difference?? There is [for now at least] nobody that can contest such brazen acts of aggression. Germany was forced into a corner via sanctions and a draconian peace treaty after WW1. Once they got back on their feet they were yet again the target for the prevailing world imperialists– the British, who even Hitler begged for peace with.

      I’ve come to learn that all this stuff is relative… why do we always hear Nazi Nazi Hitler Hitler Evil Evil while Stalin and Mao get a relative free pass?? Their tens and tens of millions of victims not only dwarf Hitler’s victim total but were also citizens of their own respective nations, and the purges/murders were indeed independent of fog-of-war or the chaos that comes with widespread warfare… their (the Communist leaders) victims were peacetime murders on a scale that makes Hitler look like a saint by comparison.

      • Totenkopf says:

        Easy enough to answer that question. Naziism essentially perished as far it being a viable political system, while Russian, Chinese, Vietnamese and Korean styles of Communism survived. Everything we really want to say about Communism or more specifically Stalin, Mao, Song, etc. we do say, we just substitute the word Nazi and Hitler. To do otherwise would make it impossible to do business with these people. Like it or not, we need them and they need us.

      • Clarence says:

        Henry, I like your comment. Don’t forget to add Bush #2 into that equation with his infamous “patriot act” and then the US invading Pakistan and Afghanistan for a CIA operative “Bin-Laden” who turned his back on the agency as he could see how hypocritical they were. The media white washes the truth. Stalin and Mao paid the right people off in the right places, hence why they were not branded like Hitler.

      • A.N. says:

        Well, Hitler was the biggest loser in history..no one has ever lost so 100%. Stalin never lost a war

  21. Andrew says:

    Andybody know what kind of a diet Herman Goring was put on during his times as a prisoner at Nurenberg?

  22. Roland says:

    How did Goering get the cyanide to kill himself?

    • Mike says:

      It MAY have been (directly or indirectly) facilitated by a prison guard who felt sorry for him… but i believe i read somewhere that Goering had two capsules hidden in two different locations as a backup plan.

      I’m almost positive one of the capsules was hidden inside a pen, i think this one was found by Allied officials, however i could be wrong.

      If Goering managed to to do it without any outside help, i believe the one that the guards missed was hidden inside a tub/container of petroleum jelly (Vaseline) or some kind of hand cream.

      I forgot where i read this and again i could be wrong but i DO know that it was from a Nuremberg trial book and/or periodical… perhaps from WW2 book or biography i don’t remember. But i know it wasn’t based solely on the assertions of some random person online– take that for what it’s worth :)

    • Clarence says:

      Roland, another theory is that Lt. Tex Wheelis may have transported this to Goering during his final days of life. There was a vial of facial cream in Goering’s suitcase. He asked Wheelis to get his suitcase for this and some gloves that he gifted to Wheelis. Either way, Goering died so yes he cheated the hangman’s noose so busybody Col. Andrus couldn’t savor his catch.

  23. […] very interesting. Interviewed by the Americans on Germany's war plans and decisions after the war: Lost Prison Interview with Hermann Goring: The Reichsmarschall's Revelations I didn't know Rommel began his career as one of Hitler's personal guards, either (in Hitler's […]

    • Paul Rogers says:

      It is very interesting indeed, and shows why and how the Germans lost the war, which could have so easily have gone the other way, had they not declared war on USA and opened a war on three fronts at the same time.

      I think this was mainly the flaw and problem with a top-down dictatorship like Hitler’s and his unwillingness to delegate military command to real experienced military Generals. He over-estimated his strength and underestimated his enemies (the Russians) and the ability of Georing to supply that incredibly long German supply line so far East of Germany. Georing was to blame for that failure though entirely, he assured Hitler the army could be re-supplied by air, and Hitler believed him, else he wouldn’t have started a war on Russia when he did, although ultimately he would have to eventually and wanted to.

      I found Georing’s ‘Gibraltar Plan’ very interesting as a British person, and this strategy of taking Africa, the Med, and Atlantic Islands, makes a lot of sense. It would have cut British supply lines and vital bases as Georing said.

      However, they tried to take Malta with the most intense bombing of WWII and failed. Malta was awarded the George Cross for holding out against the Nazi’s. I doubt the Nazi’s could have taken Gibraltar either (having been their myself) it’s a complete fortress which had massive long rang guns in WII which could destroy any German ships and there was and still is a large naval fleet there and RAF base. The Spanish tried twice to reclaim it and failed.

  24. James X says:

    Another piece of information that leads to the conclusion that America, not Germany, wanted this war between the two nations.

    History has to be rewritten.

    • Paul Rogers says:

      It is true that for America, this war came at just the right time, for America was just recovering from the Great Depression and economic depression. The American war effort not only created a lot of work and jobs, but it transferred a lot of wealth and ultimately economic and political power to America, as they had to bail out Britain with a lot of the armour and other supplies etc on credit, and they were able to dictate terms to Britain which involved removing tariffs on US exports, and allowing the US dollar to displace Sterling as the world reserve currency.

      America stayed out of the war as long as possible, acting as ‘supplier’ to Britain and piling up a lot of wealth in the process, but when the money ran out, America did make sacrifices in fairness and endured rations like Britain had to.

      The question I always wonder is, how long could or would the US have stayed out of any war with Hitler (had he not declared war on them, and followed appeasement instead)? The Japanese attack on US changed the American position overnight and they realised how vulnerable they were to this ‘axis of evil dictatorships’ (Germany, Italy and Japan), like Georing said though, instead of throwing all their weight at Japan, they threw most of it into Europe against Italy and Germany. I think the Americans finally realised, that if Britain fell, there would be no stopping the Nazi’s moving against them ultimately once they seized all the assets of the Empire and its considerable colonies in the East.

  25. FrauleinBest says:

    I rather Adore him &
    Also his ashes were scattered the Conwentzbach in Munich,
    which runs into the Isar river.

  26. Slingshot says:

    “Another piece of information that leads to the conclusion that America, not Germany, wanted this war between the two nations.
    History has to be rewritten.”

    – James X… this comment is only slightly less ridiculous than the “he’s hot, i wanna bang him” comment.

    You say history has to be re-written, but maybe you should read some history first before you conclude that this is your actual position.

  27. Fela Russell-Shaw says:

    Goering was simply a cunning thieving devil of a Nazi. He accumulated incredible amount of stolen artwork. What did Goering imagine happened to the owners of the stolen art? Goering and his fellow Nazis murdered the Jews to steal their property and money and thereby ensured that none will be around to claim back the stolen property. It is immaterial whether Goering was antisemitic or not. He simply had to rob some people to accumulate his own wealth. The Jews were simply unlucky to be a wealthy weak minority in Europe. This is the height of immorality that was not even contemplated by the Romans. Rome destroyed the Jews because the Jews rebelled politically.

  28. Fela Russell-Shaw says:

    According to Nancy H Yeide, “Nazi Party number 2 man Goering announced his intentions plainly, and well in advance, when he said, “I intend to plunder and to do it thoroughly”. And plunder he did. By the time of his arrest, he had amassed more paintings in his personal collection than exist today in the National Gallery of Art’s European painting section, some 1800 plus works.”

    ‘Beyond the Dreams of Avarice: The Hermann Goering Collection,’ Nancy’s exhaustive analysis is groundbreaking research that will no doubt lead to the identification of works of art previously unknown to have been a part of the Reichsmarschall’s collection. More importantly, in time it will make possible the return of paintings to the victims of the greatest theft in history. It is active detective work of the highest caliber.


    • Paul Rogers says:

      Fela Russell-Shaw: that’s very true, Georing was certainly extremely greedy and vain, concerned primarily with enriching himself on the suffering of others. He was, basically a thoroughly evil man. But, and this is an important point, he definitely shared the same ideological beliefs of Hitler, in believing the Jews to be comparable to parasites and vermin, that were sucking the wealth out of Germany and polluting its culture and
      ‘racial purity’ which was a big theme in fascism politics in that era. It seems bizarre to us now, but back then, these ideas were even held and endorsed by some prominent Americans, like Henry Ford. Propaganda and falsehoods about the Jews have continued through the centuries, because an ethic minority have been blessed and are just have a good work ethic and gifts and talents to rise in their professions.

  29. […] de Japón; el otro sobre las primeras ejecuciones en los juicio de Nuremberg y el suicidio de Herman Goëring. ¡Es un honor poder tenerlos! […]

  30. […] Fascinating Interview With Herman Goring by Ken Hechler. Hechler, a former Congressman from West Virginia was assigned to interview many of the defendants tried at Nuremberg had the opportunity to interview former Reichsmarschall Herman Goring. It is a very interesting interview which reveals many answers to questions that regularly appear on in this forum. It is well worth the read. Lost Prison Interview with Hermann Goring: The Reichsmarschall's Revelations […]

  31. Robert says:

    Alright donna’ and the Russian lawyers (the prosecution) were in charge of war crimes!!

  32. Je' Czaja says:

    Goering meets the classic criteria for a sociopath. Superficial charm and zero conscience. According to Dr. Robert Hare, in his book \The Mask of Sanity,\ there is no treatment, no cure for absence of conscience. The sociopath will not grow one, not does he have any interest in doing so, since he regards himself as superior to those burdened by a conscience. He will, however, lie to and schmooze anyone in striking distance.

  33. matt houston says:

    Omg, here we go again with the gas chamber nonsense!

  34. Slingshot says:

    Maybe you’d like to explain what you mean by \this gas chamber nonsense\.

  35. Ash says:

    Reichsmarschall Goering deserves our respect and admiration, a brave and brilliant man. He was a WW1 flying ace, shooting down 20+ aircraft. He was the \Red Baron\ Manfred von Richthofen’s successor as the head of the Jadgeschwader (\the flying circus\) and the recipient of the coveted Pour le Merite.

    Despite having spent almost his entire life as the second most powerful man in a dictatorship, and consequently having no experience in a courtroom, he wiped the floor with seasoned US prosecutor Robert Jackson at the Nuremberg trials. I wish more people were like him- the human race would have been a lot more advanced.

    As far as the Jews are concerned, they brought it upon themselves. As you sow, so shall you reap.

    • Slingshot says:

      Troll comment is troll. /ignore

    • Ash says:

      For the record, I must add that I do NOT condone genocide, of course. The point is, Goering was not responsible for anything other than removing Jews from positions of political and economic power, and they were asking for that, and that only. Goering testified to this at Nuremberg.

    • Paul Rogers says:

      Georing crumbled quickly and resorted to hiding behind sunglasses when he was faced with the reality and enormity of his crimes, the actual video played in court showing each of the main mass extermination camps, and the thousands of bodies and gas chambers. He was not a legal genius, he just had charisma and confidence is all, and was able to put people under his spell, much like Hitler did, by using a commanding and authorative tone. In that sense, he could justify almost anything and the sheer arrogance of his court appearance shows it. However, evil can never win against good, the majority, and so his fate was sealed from the start.

  36. David says:

    Hermann Göring was a remarkable man – a towering figure of 20th century European history. We will not see his like again.

  37. Paul Rogers says:

    Robert Aznal: You have to read Mein Kempf to find the answer to your question on what drove the hatred and persecution of the Jews from the Nazi’s. There has been, for many centuries, suspicions and mistreatment of the Jews, and these were still there in Germany. Hitler just famed the flames of hatred and made the Jews a scapegoat for everything going wrong in Germany after WWI, and their exploitation. You have to remember also, that the 1930’s was an era of far right nationalism and fascism where the ideologies and politics of the day was a belief in your country and its people being a superior race. This was before scientists fully understood the human geno and thought that there were separate human races. Hitler in his warped mind believed his race the \Aryan German race\ was superior, and was being polluted by mixing with Jews and others, so they had to be segregated by laws, and ultimately eliminated. Hitler’s ideology was not so different from Cecil Rhodes, the British Industrialist and Imperialist who colonised large parts of Africa. He also believed the Anglo-Saxons were a superior race and were destined to rule the world. The only difference between the two was empathy. Like in the film, \Nuremberg\ (1996) the psychologist who analyst Georing and the other leading Nazi’s who showed no remorse for their crimes against humanity explained this as being due to a complete lack of empathy. He said a lack of empathy towards fellow humans is the closest thing to evil. Even animals show empathy towards others, often unrelated species too.

  38. Paul Rogers says:

    If it were true, that Georing was a brave and honourable man, he wouldn’t have lied like a cowards and scum-bag in court about not knowing about the mass exterminations of Jews and others that took place in Germany and all across occupied Europe, on his orders and due to laws passed by him. He would have said, yes I did that. Instead, he tried to weasel his way out it by denying responsibility and even any knowledge of any of it, which was absurd, he was the one who even orchestrated the ‘final solution’ and was present at talks. He shared equally with Hitler a complete hatred of the Jews, that was commonly known and expressed by him. It’s well known recorded historic fact. A brave and honourable man doesn’t deny his deeds to avoid punishment, he stands by his convictions, even if they’re clearly morally wrong and crimes, as he knew they were. That’s why the Nazi’s tried to destroy the camps and destroy all the paper evidence.

  39. Paul Rogers says:

    Goering had to be responsible for far more than just that. It’s impossible he could not have been complicit in the genocide and crimes against humanity. The German economy and Goering’s war machine depended on it and slave labour for one thing (Georing was in charge of both) and also orchestrated the ‘final solution’ to ‘the Jewish question’ which he delegated to the SS. He knew absolutely what was going on, and he was instrumental in it. He showed no remorse or shock, whatsoever for the video evidence of mass murder at the Nuremberg trial. Even the judges walked out in silence they were so shocked, sickened and appalled.

  40. Paul Rogers says:

    Je’ Czaja: on Georing being a sociopath, absolutely and a meglamanic too, that’s why him and Hitler were so alike and got on so well. Hitler named him his successor after all. And your comment on the lack of any conscience for your causing human suffering and murder is also spot on. This is what made Georing and Hitler entirely evil. Their lack of that sense of right and wrong, and total absence of any empathy towards fellow human beings. They were capable of seeing others as being inhuman and comparable to vermin, which is how they justified the mass exterminations, to themselves and others. It’s a really odd thing for intelligent people to behave and think this way, and Georing was clearly intelligent. However this was a very different era and time, of fascism and extreme nationalism, like the earlier imperialism era, where aggression were used routinely.

  41. Anthony Russo says:

    Herman Goering was most definitely 100% GUILTY and deserved to hang. he didn’t want war not because of any humane considerations, but rather, that he feared the loss of all he and his fellow Nazi thugs in Germany had accumulated and looted from conquered nations would be taken. He was also an imperialist and I quote him \ It’s a statesman’s duty to take advantage of an opportunity to advance his countries territory due to weakness of a neighbor\..I would suggest anyone who wishes to see the true Herman Goering read \Nuremberg Diary\ by Gustav Gilbert, who was the psychologist at the Nuremberg Prison during the trial.he spent every day with Goering, and the other defendants throughout their imprisonment, and trial, and documented all their conversations.
    Goering also was the first commander of the gestapo..Yes, he was sometimes, charming, compelling, and entertaining, but that does NOT excuse the soulless inhuman Nazi he was. Some say he was a hero of WWI..well, for those unacquainted with history, GERMANY started WWI , just as they started WWII..Throughout the 20th century, Germany was always an aggressive, ruthless and anti Semitic nation. They were charged war reparations because they were made to pay for the cost of what they initiated. Hanging was actually too good for Herman and his pals . He was good in court because he had a more detailed knowledge of the documents that the allies confiscated after the war..Not because he was a good guy…It amazes me how anyone can actually think there was any true good in anyone such as Goering. Lets not forget that throughout the war, Goering was doping himself up with synthetic Morphine, and often fell asleep during luftwaffe meetings. when he was captured one of his monogrammed suitcases were filled with those pills. a greedy sociopathtic drug addict Nazi imperialist that got what he deserved..too bad he cheated the hangman.

  42. harry says:

    interesting article, very worth reading for learning. One comment- I agree with Goring and disagree with the author of this article, which I find hateful. It is this: “the [German] people fought with loyalty, self-sacrifice and courage, and they have suffered, too, in this life-and-death struggle into which they were arbitrarily thrust. The German people are free from blame. His address failed to save him, although it did reinforce a growing myth among the German people that stressed their victimization during the war rather than their complicity in the crimes of the Third Reich.”

    – See more at: http://articles.historynet.com/lost-prison-interview-with-hermann-goring-the-reichsmarschalls-revelations.htm#sthash.NLubuSdw.dpuf

  43. Frank Garrett says:

    So what? There are sociopaths on every street corner these days.

    • Nasha says:

      Wow this really surprise me didn’t expect to see a majority of ppl actually support or threw their admiration for Goering in this thread as for me personally I didn’t like the guy he was a fat opportunistic blob who looted tons of arts throughout Europe or was he saving them from destruction? Though what Goering said in this interview was interesting as he reflected on the difficulty of Germany to not fight the Soviet and not bring the American into the European war but he was unable to persuade Hitler from doing exactly these. As for the holocaust all I can say is its all Allied propaganda coming from the Jews in control of this world back then and Hitler was right all along that if he didn’t stop the World Jewry then they will take control of the world like cancer and he’s proven correct today in our times. More people are starting to realize that the holocaust never reached the 6 million figure read up David Irving books and I saw another new book a few weeks ago written about the holocaust figure as exaggerated can’t bother and remember the author though but I did saw it. I am against Aryanism such as KKK but I do admire and appreciate the Third Reich’s effort to destroy the pesky Bolshevism. Both are a case of evil vs evil: Nazi or Soviet the USSR being the bigger evil but I wonder how the world will be had Nazi Germany won? All I can imagine is more genocide of other non Aryan races which isn’t the case thank God thanks to Allied victory still I try not to throw my support on any particular side coz to me its important that I be as neutral and unbiased as possible as an outsider who was not born during the WWII and distant to the most epic event in mankind’s history

  44. Nick says:

    I loved the bit about the trash can. Actually, his ashes were scattered in the Isar River.

    • Stephen Bowman says:

      I was going to correct that myself but you beat me too it. However all the hanged Nazi’s from that trial were cremated and thrown in the Isar River, it is possible that they were all thrown in a trash can before being dumped in the river and they should have made that clear if it happened that way.

  45. John Hansen says:

    Great editor’s note. “I know this sounds bad, but trust me Goring doesn’t really mean it!”.

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